Today with John Lee Dumas, Wylie reveals the true definition of peak performance and why it’s a state that has to be attained, not a destination that can be achieved. When you step into the unknown and reach the pinnacle of peak performance from a fully optimized state of mind, you increase your ability to achieve results exponentially. As the conversation continues, you’ll learn why Wylie feels most coaching and consulting programs deliver counterproductive results and keep you grinding on a never ending quest for growth and achievement. Discover the five characteristics you need to embrace to attain peak performance in your world, what it truly means to get “unfucked,” and what peak performance looks like when it’s hard at work.

Wylie explains how his past experiences provided a sound leadership framework that’s remained present ever since. He says when you’re able to find value in all the aspects of your past, your true authentic self comes to the surface. You’ll also learn why it’s imperative to detach yourself and stop asking why things are the way they are, thus leading to an enhanced perspective that allows you to lead from a much clearer space. Wylie also dives into the state of imbalance so many people live in with their personal and professional lives. Most people approach these two segments completely backwards, making the achievement of balance, happiness, and optimal success impossible to reach. Discover the role consequences play in your decision-making processes, blind spots that exist in leadership practices, and how to build a foundation that allows you to bring true leadership potential to life.

Wylie dives right in discussing how his early life experiences were a catalyst to searching for more challenges that would stretch and grow his potential. He explains the key difference between a high-achiever and a high-performer, and why optimized performance requires you to look at every aspect of your life. True growth and performance is not about money or notoriety, those are just byproducts. Wylie wraps up the interview by discussing what he wants his legacy to be: the optimization of leaders of influence and power so they can create real impact in the world instead of clouding it with dysfunction.

Gayle shares that she sees Wylie as a man who has pushed his own limits exponentially. Wylie explains that he lives the philosophy that he teaches and stands for being the antithesis of the coaches and consultants who are out there helping people today. Wylie’s work is a relationship that culminates in holistic human performance acceleration for high- level achievers. He says peak performance is attained through real-world challenges and experiences, not just through following steps or protocols. As leadership is failing in many aspects of our society today, Wylie gives one piece of advice for the leaders listening – get out of your head, stop trying to overcontrol, and yield to the unknown to truly achieve the growth and success you desire.

Wylie tells us why bull riding was the challenge he needed from the hyper-focused world of pro ball. Being on the back of bulls allowed him to step into the unknown and learn how to yield to his fears. As humans, we’ll never get rid of fear, but Wylie clarifies that once we start to surrender and yield to it, we start to stretch, grow, and discover what we’re really capable of. Chris talks about his own struggles growing up, and Wylie explains that unresolved stresses create undetectable patterns of doubt, fear, and cautiousness that plague most high-achievers today. These stresses are also seen as the suffering that is required to achieve financial success – but Wylie reminds us that making money should only be the byproduct of living an optimized life.

Wylie and Glenn chat about the power of discernment and how that optimizes high-powered leaders to face new challenges. Wylie reminds Glenn that in our humanity we feel safer with steps, but to achieve optimization we have to push ourselves past the idea of “how.” Instead, we need to bring in an outside force that can support us in facing our ugly demons that we all regularly hide. You’ll also learn why so many leaders who built their empires on the back of their stress will never truly reach their full potential. Wylie also asks us to reassess what we celebrate as success – not money, not notoriety, but what we should be celebrating is self-mastery. You’ll also hear the secret of why you’ll want to slow down to speed up your results.

Corey delves into asking about the three main eras that shaped Wylie: growing up as a star athlete, transitioning to competitive bull riding, and ultimately joining an elite military unit. Those high-stress environments positioned Wylie to discover his superpower of identifying blind spots that others can’t see. After building a business around his innate talent more than a decade ago, today Wylie accelerates high-achieving leaders to a place of peace, freedom, and optimization. Wylie also speaks about the benefit of pushing yourself into uncomfortable situations. Corey asks about Wylie’s skydiving career and why he becomes more powerful when he’s at his most vulnerable. The point is it’s only in our vulnerability where we can access our fullest potential.

After discussing Wylie’s, in Patrick’s words, epic beard, Wylie explains how the lessons he’s learned in active combat have helped shape the philosophy and methods he uses to optimize and accelerate leaders. Patrick was especially captivated by Wylie’s rejection of our society’s obsession with thinking, processes, and step-by-step solutions. Instead, Wylie leads his clients into a state of being unf*cked. Patrick asks Wylie to distill his work into one sentence, and Wylie answers: “An optimized leader evolves and transforms the world; an unresolved one distorts it.”

Wylie speaks to the battles of his own demons and how he came to understand the importance of stepping fearlessly into the unknown. By being comfortable in the unknown, you can take tactical risks – that keep you winning. Learn what Wylie thinks social media has done to the world and how you can combat impostor syndrome. You’ll also hear about the forgotten, sacred gift we all have – our intuitive mind. Learning to use our intuition and working with a force outside of us is what will ultimately lead us to erupting and eradicating our unresolved stresses that prevent us from performing at our highest levels.

Molly was fascinated to learn the differences between someone like Wylie and someone like Tony Robbins, and how Wylie focuses on transformation not transference. Molly works with high-achieving attorneys who are reliant on linear processes, and Wylie helped her address her clients’ dependence by reminding us all about the importance of yielding to the unknown. He then goes into the crucial differences between helping and optimizing leaders. Molly discusses a client she works with who is so exhausted by the grind, so Wylie stresses the importance of being able to slow down enough to get yourself grounded in your emotions, so you can move forward. Finally, Wylie warns high-achievers everywhere about the dangers of chasing relief and emphasizes the goal of resolution.

After the world of bull riding and military combat lit a fire inside him, Wylie translated this power into a business where he now optimizes a small number of powerful leaders each year. Wylie states the ugly truth that money and popularity are merely byproducts of action and should not be the only metrics for success. Unresolved leaders chase those first, because they’re operating from limitation. Wylie explains to become resolved and operate from true power, leaders have face down their demons and accept real-world challenges from an outside force. These are the leaders who can then create significant, sustainable change in the world. You’ll also hear why so many leaders in our society are more worried about being right, instead of doing what is right.

Wylie kicks things off by talking about his incredible journey from star athlete, to competitive bull rider, to combat infantry soldier. Wylie’s journey allowed him to discover his innate gift of identifying blindspots, erupting stress, and optimizing a leader’s performance. You’ll hear how Wylie shows up for his clients, and he explains how he provides the right environment and framework for high-powered leaders to radically transform by erupting their unresolved stresses. He goes on to address the importance of his work, saying “An unresolved leader distorts the world.” After Amy notes that she wishes everyone was working with Wylie, you’ll learn why there is a need for an outside force to push you to those uncomfortable depths that you’d rather ignore. Listen to the end to hear about why real love means showing up and battling in the trenches together!

Wylie explains that having a happy brain means first learning to tactically identify the emotions that you experience. In our fast-paced thinking-centric society, it’s crucial to express yourself in balance. Despite what we teach our children about expressing their emotions and needs, as we grow older that very expression becomes seen as a weakness. Heather asks about the resistance people (particularly men) feel about expressing their emotions. And when she feels frustrated, Heather asks Wylie what she can do to address those feelings of frustration. Wylie recommends that she try to tactically identify if this frustration is from acute or chronic stress, then allow herself to stand in that feeling and get comfortable in the discomfort of it. Simply taking this step will allow clear and healthy solutions to emerge naturally.

Matt and Wylie discuss the “one-size-fits-all” approach to peak performance that is advertised by coaches everywhere (and why that never works). Wylie emphasizes that we are dynamic human beings – we weren’t made for cookie-cutter step-by-step programs. Then, Wylie reveals the uncomfortable truth that the empires built on the backs of stress and chaos will never truly bring you to peak performance. Going further, he explains to Matt that despite what you may think, there is absolutely no way to hack your way to optimal performance.

Steve really wanted to hear from Wylie about the two types of stress he discovered (acute stress and chronic stress) and how to differentiate between the two. Then, Wylie went in deep to talk about how his life experiences got him to where he is today and exactly how he works with high-achievers to transition them into high-performers. Steve challenges Wylie on a few aspects of his work, and Wylie is happy to explore those challenges with him (including an exploration of Steve’s own ego!)